Logos01 comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 13, chapter 81 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Nominull 28 March 2012 05:07:36AM 17 points [-]

Yes, it's super sad to let a little girl be tortured to death. But there is a cost large enough that it is not worth paying to prevent it, even if the cost is only in terms of mere cash, political capital, personal reputation as not being more fearsome than Fear itself, keeping important military secrets for the coming war secret, and the enmity of those you failed to lose to. That's the meaning of the phrase "Taboo Tradeoffs", it's that stating you kept Hermione out of Azkaban is not enough justification.

Of course, if he had counted the cost, he would have been an awful hypocrite. Recall what he said after Hermione rescued him from the Dementor:

I'll say that no matter what it ends up costing you to have kissed me, don't ever doubt for a second that it was the right thing to do.

At least he's holding himself to the same standard, even if it's a bad one.

Comment author: Logos01 29 March 2012 04:28:23AM -1 points [-]

, political capital,

Any political capital that could only be preserved by NOT rescuing a 12-year-old-girl from having her dreams, hopes, and life tortured out of her until she dies... isn't political capital I'd be willing to preserve, frankly.

Also; consider the political capital he just GAINED that day. "The Boy-Who-Lived is so powerful that even Dementors fear him! Clearly, he is a power to be reckoned with!" <-- political capital out the wazzoo.

Comment author: TimS 30 March 2012 09:02:21PM 2 points [-]

I think you are equivocating political power and political capital. Scaring dementors doesn't show legitimacy quite the way winning elections does. In other words, political capital is a kind of political power, but not the only kind.

The blood debt was political capital. Scaring the dementor will create political power of another kind.

Comment author: Logos01 02 April 2012 03:26:35AM 1 point [-]

I'm not equivocating; I'm equating. Political power is political capital; political capital is political power. If you have one, you have the other.