aladner comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 13, chapter 81 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: aladner 30 March 2012 04:49:46PM *  11 points [-]

"Enough, Mr. Potter," said Professor McGonagall. "We shall be late for afternoon Transfiguration as it is. And do come back here, you're still terrifying that poor Dementor." She turned to the Aurors. "Mr. Kleiner, if you would!"

Is it just me, or does that NOT sound like someone who just found out that dementors, thought to be manifestations of fear, are afraid of her student? I'm guessing it's one of two things:

  • She's so relieved that one of her student isn't going to be tortured to death that she isn't really processing everything else that's going on or

  • She thinks the whole thing is a trick Harry and Dumbledore came up with, and dementors aren't really afraid of Harry.

Either one could lead to a very entertaining aftermath.

Comment author: FAWS 30 March 2012 09:10:42PM 11 points [-]

Unlike most of the room she knows Harry well enough that even him scaring a Dementor, no matter how surprising, wouldn't make her personally afraid of Harry; she might be worried about what trouble he could cause but she knows perfectly well that he wouldn't do anything to her. Besides it was less of a surprise for her since Dumbledore already told her Harry had developed a new charm.

Comment author: aladner 30 March 2012 09:59:57PM 2 points [-]

I agree that her being afraid of Harry isn't something I would expect, but her comments make me think she isn't taking the situation seriously.

Comment author: 75th 31 March 2012 02:34:29AM *  0 points [-]

~And furthermore, in her post-Azkaban-breakout council with Snape and Dumbledore, Dumbledore explicitly told her that Harry has unique magics that would help orchestrate an Azkaban breakout. She doesn't know the specifics of Harry's ability, but Minerva would certainly be able to deduce that it has something to do with Dementors.~

[EDIT: Apparently I did not read your last sentence before deciding to post this.]

Comment author: loserthree 31 March 2012 06:54:08AM 10 points [-]

McGonagall is House Head of Gryffindor.

She is just that unflappable.

Comment author: pedanterrific 31 March 2012 07:51:10AM 6 points [-]

You have no idea how tempted I am to go back through the story and come up with a montage of Minerva sputtering incoherently / tearing her hair out / sticking her fingers in her ears and going la la la / at a loss for words / blurting something inadvisable / etc.

Comment author: loserthree 31 March 2012 02:58:46PM *  11 points [-]
Comment author: erratio 31 March 2012 08:08:45PM *  5 points [-]

Or, you know, relief + dry sense of humour = exactly that kind of reaction as a coping mechanism.

I am reminded of why I prefer British comedy to American - in American comedies everyone tends to be very obvious and melodramatic, while in British the tendency is more towards understated and deadpan. McGonagall's reaction fits perfectly into the latter category, trivialising the entire situation rather than mugging for the audience. (Not that some of the humour in the earlier chapters hasn't been overblown melodrama. Harry's parents leaving the room to have hysterics stands out as the most obvious example)

Comment author: summerstay 01 April 2012 01:11:27AM 2 points [-]

Fawlty Towers is a good example of the understated and deadpan nature of British comedy.

Comment author: summerstay 04 April 2012 01:22:37PM 0 points [-]

I'm kidding, by the way. Anyone who has seen it would know that it has a lot of broad slapstick humor.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 31 March 2012 09:41:52PM 0 points [-]

Watch the original Bob Newhart series for understated and deadpan.

Comment author: [deleted] 30 March 2012 08:18:10PM 12 points [-]

Or, she's simply ceased to be surprised at the extent of Harry's abilities outpacing her expectations of them.

Comment author: bogdanb 01 April 2012 11:50:57AM *  2 points [-]

Or, she’s the head of Gryffindor, and she felt the need to at least appear to put up a brave front in support of her students.

Comment author: Normal_Anomaly 31 March 2012 03:47:48PM 2 points [-]

Or, in addition to everyone else's reasons, she's already working hard to maintain a calm demeanor for the sake of Hermione and Harry.

Comment author: dspeyer 04 April 2012 05:04:00AM 0 points [-]

A possibility is that she thinks very fast* and realizes that Harry ought to move away from the dementor (since it is effecting him some) but that it must be done in a way that makes Harry look strong, not weak. Showing that Harry has no problem standing undefended next to a dementor but walked away out of pity reinforces his strength nicely.

*= fast may actually mean that Dumbledore went back and gave her carefully edited information so she could make plans in advance

Comment author: MartinB 30 March 2012 08:37:03PM 0 points [-]

Or she already knew.