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Comment author: RobinZ 03 June 2010 01:43:53AM *  0 points [-]

As would I, actually. I guessed "obsolete" because the book came out in 1991 (and Dennett has written further books on the subject in the following nineteen years). I've not investigated its shortcomings.

Comment author: Blueberry 03 June 2010 06:47:57PM *  1 point [-]

Good point: thanks. Dennett wrote Sweet Dreams in 2005 to update Consciousness Explained, and in the preface he wrote

The theory I sketched in Consciousness Explained in 1991 is holding up pretty well . . . I didn't get it all right the first time, but I didn't get it all wrong either. It is time for some revision and renewal.

I highly recommend Sweet Dreams to Gigi and anyone else interested in consciousness. (It's also shorter and more accessible than Consciousness Explained.)

Comment author: Gigi 04 June 2010 02:26:04AM 0 points [-]

Thank you for the updated recommendation. I will probably look into reading Sweet Dreams. Would I benefit from reading Consciousness Explained first, or would I do well with just the one?

Comment author: Blueberry 04 June 2010 08:43:34AM 1 point [-]

I'd recommend reading them both, and you'd probably benefit from reading CE first. But I'd actually start with Godel, Escher, Bach (by Hofstadter) and The Mind's I (which Dennett co-wrote with Hofstadter).

Comment author: RobinZ 04 June 2010 07:09:38PM 0 points [-]

Oh, The Mind's I was excellent - it is a compilation of short works with commentary that touches on a lot of nifty themes with respect to identity and personhood.

Comment author: Tyrrell_McAllister 04 June 2010 07:14:12PM 0 points [-]

A while back, colinmarshall posted a detailed chapter-by-chapter review of The Mind's I.

Comment author: RobinZ 04 June 2010 07:19:24PM 0 points [-]

Thanks for the link!

...which links to the recommended reading list for new rationalists, which I suppose we should have given to Gigi in the first place. The sad thing is, I contributed to that list, and completely forgot it until now.

Comment author: Blueberry 04 June 2010 08:49:27AM 0 points [-]

Oh, and also Hofstadter's Metamagical Themas. (Yes, that's the correct spelling.)

Comment author: RobinZ 04 June 2010 07:12:52PM 0 points [-]

The title - being the title of Hofstadter's column in Scientific American (back when Scientific American was a substantive publication), of which the book is a collection - is an anagram of Mathematical Games, the name of his predecessor's (Martin Gardner's) column. That, too, is an enjoyable and eclectic read.