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Comment author: shokwave 14 November 2010 03:05:30PM 6 points [-]

I'm still scared of posting on here because it’s the first discussion forum where I have known myself to be intellectually outclassed.

I have found that some of the time you can make up for a (perceived) lack of intellect with a little work, and this is true (from my own experience) here on LessWrong: when about to comment on an issue, it pays big dividends to use the search feature to check for something related in previous posts with which you can refine, change, or bolster your position. Of the many times I have done it, twice I caught myself in grievous and totally embarrassing errors!

For what it's worth, commenting on LW is so far from normal conversation and normal internet use that most intellects haven't developed methods for it; they have to grind through mostly the same processes as everyone else - and nobody can actually tell if it took you five seconds or five minutes to type your reply. My own replies might be left in the comment box for hours, to be reread with a fresh mind later and changed entirely.

tl;dr Don't be afraid to comment!

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 14 November 2010 04:38:35PM 5 points [-]

For what it's worth, commenting on LW is so far from normal conversation and normal internet use that most intellects haven't developed methods for it

This is interesting-- LW seems to be pretty natural for me. I think the only way my posting here is different from anywhere else is that my sentences might be more complex.

On the other hand, once I had a choice, I've spent most of my social life in sf fandom, where the way I write isn't wildly abnormal, I think.

Anyone who's reading this, do you think what's wanted at LW is very different from what's wanted in other venues?

Comment author: shokwave 15 November 2010 05:22:30AM 5 points [-]

Wow, that is interesting ... conditional on more people feeling this way (LW is natural), I might just have focused my intellect on rhetoric and nonreasonable convincing to the point that following LW's guidelines is difficult, and then committed the typical mind fallacy and assumed everyone had too.

Comment author: NihilCredo 15 November 2010 07:26:28AM 12 points [-]

Actually, I've come to notice that rhetoric and other so-called Dark Arts are still worth their weight in gold on LW, except when the harder subjects (math and logic) are at hand.

But LessWrong commenters definitely have plenty of psychological levers, and the demographic uniformity only makes them more effective. For a simple example, I guesstimate that, in just about any comment, a passing mention of how smart LessWrongers are is worth on average 3 or 4 extra karma points - and this is about as old as tricks can get.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 15 November 2010 07:24:55PM 2 points [-]

Of course, LessWrongers are smarter than most people, but what's really striking is the willingness to update. And the modesty.

Comment author: Emile 16 November 2010 09:29:34AM 9 points [-]

Yup, our only flaw is modesty.

Comment author: taryneast 12 December 2010 03:13:46PM 3 points [-]

I've noticed that karma points accrue for witty quips too.

Comment author: Jack 15 November 2010 09:34:52AM *  2 points [-]

But LessWrongers are really smart.

Comment author: wnoise 15 November 2010 07:20:52PM 3 points [-]

That is a true but banal observation that shouldn't be worth karma. Of course, so was this response. And so forth.