nyan_sandwich comments on Minicamps on Rationality and Awesomeness: May 11-13, June 22-24, and July 21-28 - Less Wrong

24 Post author: AnnaSalamon 29 March 2012 08:48PM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 29 March 2012 10:22:55PM 12 points [-]

Anna says we're still looking at locations but it's looking at around $115/person/night just for lodging + meals, and that the 3-day camps actually include 4 nights the way everyone counts things and we have to purchase it. Anna also notes that she and Julia and Michael get $3k/month and this takes way more of their time than just the actual days. So definitely not a Singinst fundraiser. That data is available very easily so I'm posting it right now.

A specific example of an exercise from last year's minicamp that a lot of people liked was "Value of Information" which included the technical details of how to calculate VoI and exercises in being sensitive to particular forms of scope (how much does it cost, how long does it last, how often does it happen).

We're still working out the program which is why it's not posted even tentatively (we were just in the middle of some agonizing about priorities).

Comment author: [deleted] 29 March 2012 10:59:19PM 15 points [-]

$115/person/night

Wait, what? Can I just stay in a hostel and eat from the gorcery store?

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 30 March 2012 10:41:11AM 9 points [-]

Can I just stay in a hostel and eat from the gorcery store?

To make a rational decision, more information is necessary, such as: How much does the hostel cost? Does it have decent beds? Distance from hostel to the place of workshop. Local food costs. Etc. (Don't forget to include facts like if you sleep in a different place than majority, you deprive yourself of opportunity of some morning/evening informal chat.)

Generally: how much would I really save by "hostel & grocery store" and how much would it reduce my gains from the workshop?

Speaking for myself, I would like to cut some costs (together with the cost of flying it makes my salary for 2 months), but there is always a risk. Once I slept in a hostel with beds so bad that I really did not sleep much that night. Now if I imagine 9 such nights plus jet lag, and the resulting effect on my concentration and memory, I would get much less benefit per dollar spent.

Comment author: Bugmaster 30 March 2012 07:09:39PM 3 points [-]

Couldn't the SIAI at least provide this option ? Then, people could decide for themselves whether they want cold cereal or gourmet meals.

Comment author: arundelo 29 March 2012 11:57:45PM 1 point [-]

I went to an Esperanto thing that was set up like this once.