Well, you are entitled to your opinion, of course, but I am simply sharing with you the general attitude towards violence in my social environment, not arguing in their name. Nevertheless, if you're going to go so far as to pick those memes apart, instead of simply saying "thank you for the clarification, now I understand how you people think", I'd suggest you actually go through with it and lay down your argument in full. Saying "I'd say you are wrong" and then leaving it at that tends to leave a bad taste in your interlocutor's mouth.
I'd suggest you actually go through with it and lay down your argument in full.
OK:
[violence} doesn't achieve anything.
Yes it does. For example if you beat someone up you can take their stuff. Or thwart their political designs. If you beat up enough people well enough you can execute social change. In fact the vast majority of positive social change (and even more negative social change) that has occurred in the history of mankind has relied on violence.
Violence is the crudest form of power we have. Power does stuff. Pretending violence doesn't achie...
I have found this most wonderful (if fairly lengthy) article, and thought you would enjoy having it brought to your attention.
It is so good, I think we should include it among the references in the "Politics is the Mind Killer" wiki page. But, before that, I submit it to you, and ask you: is there anything in this article that would warrant its exclusion from this site? I mean, besides the fact that it is about politics, and written by a notorious Social-democrat (And is that in itself grounds for exclusion?).