Ezekiel comments on SotW: Be Specific - Less Wrong

37 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 03 April 2012 06:11AM

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Comment author: Ezekiel 06 April 2012 12:48:11AM 8 points [-]

Incidentally, I find it funny (although not necessarily significant) that everyone else's instinct was to talk about the Genie in the third person, whereas Eliezer used the first person.

(Double-posted because it's a completely separate and much more frivolous comment.)

Comment author: shminux 08 April 2012 06:45:57PM 3 points [-]

It is extremely significant. That's partly the reason why EY managed to play the AI-in-a-box game rather successfully despite the overwhelming odds.

Comment author: [deleted] 08 April 2012 07:07:27PM 0 points [-]

Er.... How do you know? I thought he hadn't disclosed anything about how he did that.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 08 April 2012 08:04:29PM 0 points [-]

The role of "the Genie" here and "the AI" in the Boxed AI game have certain obvious similarities.
It seems reasonable to assume that a willingness to adopt the former correlates with a willingness to adopt the latter.
It seems reasonable to assume that a willingness to adopt the role of "the AI" in the Boxed AI game is necessary (though not sufficient) in order to win that game.
So shminux's claim seems fairly uncontroversial to me.
Do you dispute it, or are you merely making a claim about the impossibility of knowledge?

Comment author: [deleted] 08 April 2012 08:18:48PM 0 points [-]

Do you dispute it, or are you merely making a claim about the impossibility of knowledge?

The latter.

Comment author: shminux 08 April 2012 08:24:41PM *  1 point [-]

He mentioned on some mailing list that he had to think like an AI desperately trying to get out. It makes a world of difference in how you approach the situation if it is your life that is actually on the line.