Vladimir_Nesov comments on My Way - Less Wrong

31 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 17 April 2009 01:25AM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 17 April 2009 04:13:50PM 4 points [-]

Carey isn't quite as proficient at writing men as she is writing women

I would have been surprised if she was. Joscelin Verreuil also strikes me as being a projection of some facets of a man that a woman most notices, and not a man as we exist from the inside.

I have never known a man with a true female side, and I have never known a woman with a true male side, either as authors or in real life.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 17 April 2009 05:39:03PM 3 points [-]

Which raises a question: were there high-quality collaborations in fiction, where a male writer contributes to the writing of male characters, and a female writer works on female ones? How did that work out?

Comment author: wedrifid 30 December 2010 05:06:14AM 2 points [-]

Which raises a question: were there high-quality collaborations in fiction, where a male writer contributes to the writing of male characters, and a female writer works on female ones?

To a significant extent David and Leigh Eddings.

How did that work out?

Nauseating. Completely replacing every female character in his books would lose nothing of value. :)

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 16 March 2014 10:05:37PM 1 point [-]

I went back and read some David Eddings, which I remembered liking in early childhood, and was like, "Wow, look at all the adverbs". I think you have to try something like that with, I don't know, Neil Gaiman and Lois McMaster Bujold, before it becomes a good test of the theory.

Actually, now that I think on it, Bujold has many male characters and I've yet to notice a flaw in their masculinity, side-by-side with Cordelia Naismith, the Greatest Mom in the Multiverse. She's also written a gay male viewpoint character at length (Ethan of Athos) but I don't know how accurate that was.