John_Maxwell_IV comments on [draft] Concepts are Difficult, and Unfriendliness is the Default: A Scary Idea Summary - Less Wrong

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Comment author: provocateur 31 March 2012 09:37:18PM *  -2 points [-]

AGI will only be Friendly if its goals are the kinds of goals that we would want it to have

At the risk of losing my precious karma, I'll play the devil's advocate and say I disagree.

First some definitions: "Friendly" (AI), according to Wikipedia, is one that is beneficial to humanity (not a human buddy or pet). "General" in AGI means not problem-specific (narrow AI).

My counterexample is an AI system that lacks any motivations, goals or actuators. Think of an AIXI system (or, realistically, a system that approximates it), and subtract any reward mechanisms. It just models its world (looking for short programs that describe its input). You could use it to make (super-intelligent) predictions about the future. This seems clearly beneficial to humanity (until it falls into malicious human hands, but that's besides the argument you are making)

Comment author: JamesAndrix 01 April 2012 05:02:32PM 0 points [-]

That would make (human[s] + predictor) in to an optimization process that was powerful beyond the human[s]'s ability to steer. You might see a nice looking prediction, but you won't understand the value of the details, or the value of the means used to achieve it. (Which would be called trade-offs in a goal directed mind, but nothing weighs them here.)

It also won't be reliable to look for models in which you are predicted to not hit the Emergency Regret Button As that may just find models in which your regret evaluator is modified.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 03 April 2012 12:06:29AM 0 points [-]

Is a human equipped with Google an optimization process powerful beyond the human's ability to steer?

Comment author: JamesAndrix 04 April 2012 03:06:27AM 0 points [-]

Tell me from China.