Thomas comments on Rationality Quotes April 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Thomas 03 April 2012 06:24:39AM 4 points [-]

Memory locations are just wires turned sideways in time.

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Comment author: Mass_Driver 03 April 2012 10:03:04PM 4 points [-]

Can you please explain this, slowly and carefully? It sounds plausible, and I'm trying to improve my understanding of space-time / 4-D thinking.

Comment author: Oscar_Cunningham 06 April 2012 06:14:05PM *  5 points [-]

When analysing a circuit we normally consider a wire to have the same voltage along its entire length. (There are two problems with this: voltage changes only propagate at c, and the wire has a resistance. Normally these are both negligible.) Thus we can view wires as taking a voltage and spreading it out along a line in space.

On the other hand, memory locations take a voltage and spread it out through time. So they are in some sense a wire pointing in the time direction.

Sadly, the analogy doesn't quite hold up. Wires have one spatial dimension but also have a temporal dimension (i.e. wires exist for more than an instant). So if you rotated a wire so that its spatial dimension pointed along the temporal dimension, its temporal dimension would rotate down into one of the spatial dimensions. It would still look like a wire! A memory location has no spatial extent: they're a very small bit of metal (you could make one in the shape of a wire but people don't). Thus they have a temporal extent but no spatial extent. So if you rotated one you could get something that had a spatial extent but no temporal extent. This would look like a piece of wire that appeared for an instant and then disappeared again.

Comment author: Mass_Driver 06 April 2012 07:40:05PM 1 point [-]

Amazing! So a stricter analogy might be a memory location and a lightning bolt -- the memory location occupies only a tiny amount of space, and the static discharge of lightning takes only a tiny amount of time.

Comment author: Thomas 04 April 2012 07:28:28AM 0 points [-]

Ponder only the one dimensional time for now. At every point of time, you have only this moment and nothing more. But with the memories, you have same previous moments cached. Stored somewhere "orthogonal" to the timeline.

I've heard it here: http://edge.org/conversation/a-universe-of-self-replicating-code

On a site even better than this and quite unpopular on this site, also. Read or watch Dyson there. As many others.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 04 April 2012 01:00:45PM 0 points [-]

Is Edge the more unpopular site, or are you thinking of someplace else?

For what it's worth, I don't have anything against Edge, I just get bored reading it, even when the question is something I'm interested in.