NancyLebovitz comments on Rationality Quotes April 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Spurlock 02 April 2012 04:44:28AM 15 points [-]

“The mind commands the body and it obeys. The mind orders itself and meets resistance. ”

-St Augustine of Hippo

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 03 April 2012 09:45:19PM 9 points [-]

The mind commands the body and it obeys.

Augustine has obviously never tried to learn something which requires complicated movement, or at least he didn't try it as an adult.

Comment author: JulianMorrison 20 April 2012 03:50:19PM 0 points [-]

The general principle is: cached is fast, cache-populating is slow. This goes for mind and "body" both, because the body does as its told, but it needs telling in a lot of detail and the control signals need to be discovered. Most people, for both mind and body, learn enough control signals for day-to-day use, and stop.

I do somewhat wonder what it would be like to know the control signals for all my muscles, Bene Gesserit style.

Comment author: khafra 21 June 2012 08:19:04PM 0 points [-]

Vladimir Vasiliev is a Bene Gesserit, at least for skeletal muscle. Unfortunately, I can't locate any of the videos that really demonstrate this on youtube; but it makes him able to do some strange-looking things very effectively.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 20 April 2012 06:56:57PM 0 points [-]

I'm reasonably sure that the important thing is awareness of muscles in systems appropriate for movement [1] rather than as individuals. Herbert had a good intution there, but Feldenkrais is a real world method of improving movement. Also take a look at Eric Franklin's books on practical anatomy.

[1] That's approximate phrasing for an approximate idea.

Comment author: DSimon 05 April 2012 09:00:48AM -1 points [-]

It may be a matter of the mind having to first order itself to give the body the correct commands.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 05 April 2012 01:56:22PM 0 points [-]

That seems fair, but on the other hand, it seems that a primary way of the mind acquiring the order it needs is to start by giving the body commands that the body doesn't follow.