komponisto comments on Rationality Quotes April 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 04 April 2012 09:33:35PM 14 points [-]

It means nothing, although Greg Egan is quite impressed by it. Sad but true: Someone with an IQ of, say, 90 can be trained to operate a Turing machine, but will in all probability never understand matrix calculus. The belief that Turing-complete = understanding-complete is false. It just isn't stupid.

Comment author: komponisto 05 April 2012 09:57:52PM 3 points [-]

[That human brains are Turing-complete] means nothing, although Greg Egan is quite impressed by it. Sad but true: Someone with an IQ of, say, 90 can be trained to operate a Turing machine, but will in all probability never understand matrix calculus.

It doesn't mean nothing; it means that people (like machines) can be taught to do things without understanding them.

(They can also be taught to understand, provided you reduce understanding to Turing-machine computations, which is harder. "Understanding that 1+1 = 2" is not the same thing as being able to output "2" to the query "1+1=".)