Vulture comments on Rationality Quotes April 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vulture 28 April 2012 03:26:23AM *  0 points [-]

Leonid: Without a purpose, a man is nothing.

Newton: Yes. But we wonder...do you share our gift? Do you have the necessary vision? Do you know the final fate of man?

Leonid: How could anyone know things like that?

Council: The Greater Science. The Quiet Math. The Silent Truth. The Hidden Arts. The Secret Alchemy.

Newton: Every question has an answer. Every equation has a solution.

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Comment author: SusanBrennan 29 April 2012 02:46:20PM 0 points [-]

Isn't one of the implications of Gödel's incompleteness theorem that there will always be unanswerable questions?

Comment author: TheOtherDave 29 April 2012 03:08:03PM 1 point [-]

Only if the questioner is consistent.

Comment author: Vulture 30 April 2012 05:12:24AM *  0 points [-]

And there's no way to tell whether the questioner is inconsistent, or there exist unanswerable questions, right? [In any case, I would be greatly astonished if "What is the final fate of man?" was found to be isomorphic to a human Godel sentence ;-) ]

Comment author: David_Gerard 29 April 2012 02:19:52PM 0 points [-]

The point of this one isn't clear.

Comment author: Vulture 30 April 2012 05:18:07AM 0 points [-]

I guess it probably should have been broken up into a couple of shorter ones, but it was a single, short exchange and I just couldn't resist. That the question of the final fate of man, can, like any question, be answered with a greater science, with the hidden arts... this is essentially the message of transhumanist rationality, and it was beautifully phraseds here. "Without a purpose, a man is nothing"... this really should have been off on its own, in retrospect, but its meaning is a little bit less obscure, I think.