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Characterizing the superintelligence which we are concerned about - Less Wrong
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Submitted by &lt;a href="http://lesswrong.com/user/JoshuaFox"&gt;JoshuaFox&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://lesswrong.com/lw/bdr/characterizing_the_superintelligence_which_we_are/#comments"&gt;13 comments&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong style=&quot;font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;&quot; id=&quot;internal-source-marker_0.0799084932077676&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;What is this &amp;#x201C;superintelligence&amp;#x201D; we are concerned about? In writing articles on FAI topics, I took the easy way out and defined the focus of attention as an AI that can far outdo humans in all areas. But this just a useful shortcut, not what we are really talking about. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;In this essay, I will try to better rcharacterize the topic of interest. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br class=&quot;kix-line-break&quot;&gt;Some possibilities that have been brought up include intelligences &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;list-style-type: disc; font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;which are human-like, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li style=&quot;list-style-type: disc; font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;which are conscious, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li style=&quot;list-style-type: disc; font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;which can outperform humans in some or all areas,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li style=&quot;list-style-type: disc; font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;which can self-improve,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li style=&quot;list-style-type: disc; font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;or which meet a semi-formal or formal definition of intelligence or of above-human intelligence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong style=&quot;font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;&quot; id=&quot;internal-source-marker_0.0799084932077676&quot;&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;All these are important features in possible future AIs which we should be thinking about.But what really counts is whether an AI can &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;outwit &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;us when its goals are pitted against ours.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;1. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;Human-like&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt; intelligence. We are humans, we care about human welfare; and humans are the primary intelligence which cooperates and competes with us; so human intelligence is our primary model. &amp;#xA0;Machines that &amp;#x201C;think like humans&amp;#x201D; are an intuitive focus on discussions of AI; Turing took this as the basis for his practical test for intelligence&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;Future AIs might have exactly this type of intelligence, particularly if they are emulated brains, what Robin Hanson calls &amp;#x201C;ems.&amp;#x201D; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;If human-like AI is the only AI to come, then not much will have happened: We already have seven billion humans, and a few more will simply extend economic trends. If, as Hanson describes, the ems need fewer resources than humans, then we can expect extreme economic impact. If such AI has certain differences from us humans, like the ability to self-improve, then it will fall under the other categories, as described below.&lt;a id=&quot;more&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;J. Storrs Hall (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: italic; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;Beyond AI: Creating the conscience of the machine&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;, 2007) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://lifeboat.com/ex/kinds.of.minds&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;explores&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt; different types of intelligence in relation to the human model: &amp;#x201C;hypohuman&amp;#x201D;, &amp;#x201C;epihuman,&amp;#x201D; &amp;#x201C;allohuman,&amp;#x201D; &amp;#x201C;parahuman,&amp;#x201D; and &amp;#x201C;hyperhuman.&amp;#x201D; Those distinctions are important, but in this essay I am focusing specifically on the specific level of intelligence which can be expected to end the human era, rather than on the relation of such intelligence to human intelligence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;2. More narrowly than full human emulation, we can consider machines that are &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;conscious&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;, feel emotions, or have some other human mental characteristic. The first half of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imprint.co.uk/singularity.pdf&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;Chalmers&amp;#x2019; seminal 2010 article&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt; brought some essential FAI ideas into the academic sphere; but the second half was devoted to the question of AI consciousness, as if this were the most important thing about AI.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;Future AIs may eventually have consciousness or not, whatever consciousness is. But in any case, a machine which is is about to create a cure for aging, or turn us the solar system into computronium is very relevant to our future, whether or not it is conscious; and likewise for emotions and other human mental features.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;3. Performing better than humans in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;some but not all areas&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;. We already have that, in arithmetic, information retrieval, chess, and other areas, and though this has benefited humanity, this is not what we are trying to describe here. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;We might imagine an roughly human-level intelligence which is better than humans in a broad range of abilities, and worse in a variety of other areas, an &amp;#x201C;alien intelligence.&amp;#x201D; Just as humans today can harm and help us, such an intelligence could potentially be significant to our futures. But what we are interested here is not just an intelligence that is good in a variety of goals, if this has no effect on us.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;4. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;Outperforming humans in all areas&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;: a machine that can surpass--or far surpass, in IJ Good&amp;#x2019;s original formulation--&amp;#x201D;all the intellectual activities of any man however clever.&amp;#x201D; This is convenient as a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: italic; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;sufficient &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;condition in considering superintelligences which can radically benefit or harm the human future. (E.g., this &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nickbostrom.com/ethics/ai.html&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;see this article by Bostrom&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;But it is not a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: italic; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;necessary &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;condition. Imagine a machine that can far surpass any human in all areas except for cooking fine cuisine: It can still excel in creating cancer cures, conquering the earth, or turning us all into paper clips. This would qualify as the entity that can rework our futures for better or worse, even though it does not &amp;#x201C;surpass all the intellectual activities of any man.&amp;#x201D;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;5. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;Self-improving&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;. Even an infrahuman AI, if it were capable of self-improving &amp;#xA0;and motivated to do so (for reasons well-discussed by Omohundro and others), might &amp;#xA0;improve itself to human levels and ultimately to superintelligence. Yudkowsky, in his early article &amp;#x201C;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://yudkowsky.net/obsolete/singularity.html&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;Staring into the Singularity&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;,&amp;#x201D; devotes the abstract and the article&amp;#x2019;s key point, to AI self-improvement.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;But what really interests us in self-improvement is actually the resulting superintelligence. If the AI were to self-improve but stop at an infrahuman level, that would not be the AI which we are considering. On the other hand, if human engineers construct an AI which from the first has a greatly superhuman level of intelligence, but which is utterly incapable of self-improving, that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: italic; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;would &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;be one of those entities we are considering here, one capable of great benefit or harm.&lt;br class=&quot;kix-line-break&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;6. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;Optimization power.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt; In trying to broaden the idea of intelligence beyond the human model, terms such as &amp;#x201C;flexible,&amp;#x201D; or &amp;#x201C;general&amp;#x201D; intelligence are used. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vetta.org/shane/intelligence.html&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;Legg and Hutter&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt; captured the idea with a definition summarizing the work of about 70 authors: &amp;#x201C;Intelligence measures an agent&amp;#x2019;s ability to achieve goals in a wide range of environments.&amp;#x201D; To distinguish this from the human model, we sometimes speak of &amp;#x201C;optimization power&amp;#x201D; instead of &amp;#x201C;intelligence.&amp;#x201D;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goertzel.org/papers/DefinitionOfIntelligence.pdf&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;Goertzel&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt; suggests that we adds to this definition a consideration of efficiency: An agent that can work quickly with limited resources is smarter than one that can do the same thing slowly with more resources. Goertzel also asks that we consider an agent&amp;#x2019;s ability in the real-world environment which we humans have to deal with, and not across all possible environments, the great majority of which are completely irrelevant to anything the agent will be faced with.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;However, these definitions are too loose to help us identify the entities that we are most interested in, if we care about radical changes to the human future?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;7. Legg and Hutter further formalize the definition mentioned above with a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;formal metric&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;, the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vetta.org/documents/Machine_Super_Intelligence.pdf&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;Universal Intelligence Measure&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;. We could use this metric to precisely specify entities which are smarter than the humans. &amp;#xA0;If the average human (or the smartest one, or the collective of all humans) has an intelligence measure of, say, 3.1, you could say that we are interested any AI with intelligence 3.1 or higher.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;However, the Universal Intelligence Measure is incomputable, and Goertzel&amp;#x2019;s modifications add even more complications. Until useful approximations are found, these formal measures are not applicable to our problem--and even then, we will only know which agents are smarter than humans according to a certain metric, which is not necessarily what we are looking for here.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;8. Able and motivated to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;outwit &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;humans. This is what we really care about. If the agent is able to achieve its goals &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: italic; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;against our will&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;, to out-trick us, to outthink us when we are trying to stop it, we could be in big trouble, if its goals are not exactly compatible with ours.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;Some entities today can achieve their goals at the expense of humans. If you get on an automated monorail in the airport, and then realize that you on the train to Terminal 2, when you need to be in Terminal 1, the train will accomplish its goal (i.e., what it is designed for), and it will get you to Terminal 2, even though you don&amp;#x2019;t want it to. Biological viruses may well achieve their &amp;#x201C;goals&amp;#x201D; of reproduction at the expense of humans, and if it turns out that a pandemic is the greatest threat to the human species, we should fight to prevent that; maybe even redirecting resources from Friendly AI research. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;But these entities can&amp;#x2019;t be said to &amp;#x201C;outwit&amp;#x201D; us: They are not achieving complex goals in complex environments, as in the definitions of intelligence mentioned above.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;Though fully general intelligence is useful for outwitting humans, it is not necessary. If a machine has the goal of maximizing the number of paperclips in the world, and uses trickiness and guile to overcome our best efforts to stop it, ultimately converting all the matter in the solar system to paper clips, but has no ability to understand how to prepare cheesecake or why Benny Hill is funny, then it has still outwitted us to our detriment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;There is another type of agent that we are interested in, a Friendly one which does only what we want, one which can cure aging, hunger, and every other affliction.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;Such a helpful AI also need not be fully general. Already today, computers help scientists cure diseases and do other good things. If we develop better and better specialized AI, we could go a long way even without artificial general intelligence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;But a Friendly artificial &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: italic; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;general &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;intelligence could be even more helpful than a narrow one, by finding creative new ideas for giving us what we want. This is the Friendly AI which SI would like to build.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;An AI which harms us and one which benefits us need not differ in their architecture, just in goals. A full, general intelligence could be very effective at outwitting us and also at helping us, depending on what it is trying to do.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;All the concepts in 1-7 above are relevant to the question we are asking. Human intelligence is our moral concern, and our main existing model of intelligence, and consciousness is one of its central features. Superintelligence, per IJ Good&amp;#x2019;s definition, is a sufficient condition (together with a non-Friendly goal system) for destroying humanity. Self-improvement is the most likely way to reach that point. Definitions and formal metrics help pin down more precisely what we mean by intelligence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;But the AI to be concerned about is one which can &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;outwit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt; us in achieving its goals, and secondarily, one which is as good as possible in helping us achieve our goals.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#xA0;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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<title>Dmytry on Characterizing the superintelligence which we are concerned about</title>
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&lt;div class=&quot;md&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;To be honest, it looks to me like the only AI effort so far with the scary idea realization potential is, ironically, the FAI effort.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The other efforts deal with goals that are defined inside the computer, not outside it. E.g. the AI that designs airplanes, the designing airplanes is how you present it to the incompetents; the AI designs best wings for the fluid simulator it has inside. The fluid simulator designer, too, designs fluid simulators that mathematically correspond to the most accurate approximation to basic laws of physics (that are too expensive to run). Again, the goal is inside the formal system that is the AI. And so on. It is already the case that all effort but the FAI effort, is fairly safe, and has certain inherent failsafes (e.g. if you give too hard problem to theorem prover, if its so general it determines it needs new hardware, well, it also could determine that it needs new axioms, and in fact our design for solving maximization or search problem will 'wirehead' if you permit any kind of self modification affecting the goal or evaluator). The problem of making the AI care about our ill defined 'we know if its genuine effort or not when we see it' goals, rather than of its own internal representations, is likely a very very hard problem. A problem we don't need solved to e.g. resolve the hunger and disease using the AI. Nobody has ever been able to define an unfriendly AI (real paperclip maximizing one for example) even in a toy model given infinite computing power.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The FAI folk, for lack of domain specific knowledge, don't understand what the other AI effort looks like, misunderstand high level descriptions (AI that drives a car) for the model of what is being implemented, and project the dangers specific to their own approach, onto everything else. They are anthropomorphizing the AI a lot, while trying not to by ignoring whatever is the current hot thing that we evolved (today the grand topic in evolutionary talk is how we evolved altruism, so the AI won't have that and will be selfish and nasty; but note that not so long ago the hot topic was how we evolved to be selfish and nasty, so the AI optimists would talk of how the AI would all be nice and sweet and anyone who disagrees is anthropomorphizing).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;edit: And to be fair, there's also the messy AI effort in form of emulation of human brain, neural networks, and the like. Those hypothetical entities learn our culture, learn the values, and are a part of mankind in the way in which neat AIs are not; it's ridiculous to describe them as existential risk on par with runaway paperclip maximizer, and the question whenever they 'are' an existential risk is not a question of what the AIs would do but purely a matter of how narrowly you define our existence. You go too narrow, and we quit existing in 10 years as everyone changes from what they are; you define a little more broadly, and those learning AIs are the continued existence of mankind.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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<title>John_Maxwell_IV on Characterizing the superintelligence which we are concerned about</title>
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<dc:date>2012-04-02T12:57:17.511645+10:00</dc:date>
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&lt;div class=&quot;md&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I wrote a long comment on this post, but I'm not sure if I want to share it and potentially somehow advance the state of AGI knowledge. So all you get is this lousy shirt.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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<title>shminux on Characterizing the superintelligence which we are concerned about</title>
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<dc:date>2012-04-03T05:12:38.122085+10:00</dc:date>
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&lt;div class=&quot;md&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you think that you can delay the AGI advancement by withholding some of your ideas from this forum, you grossly overestimate both your own importance and that of this forum.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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<title>pleeppleep on Characterizing the superintelligence which we are concerned about</title>
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<dc:date>2012-04-03T05:56:41.157065+10:00</dc:date>
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&lt;div class=&quot;md&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Not necessarily. We don't know what he was going to say, so we hardly have enough evidence to say it would be unhelpful. Also, while this forum doesn't necessarily have a lot of influence, there are many people who are mildly influential that like to peruse this site. Just the chance of inspiring such a person would likely have an impact on technological development. Not a significant one, but maybe enough to cancel out the contribution we have made by reading and considering this post.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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<title>keefe on Characterizing the superintelligence which we are concerned about</title>
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<dc:date>2012-04-14T06:02:41.539271+10:00</dc:date>
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&lt;div class=&quot;md&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think more helpful people than unhelpful people come here. I remember a friend in grad school who had someone publish an algo he had discovered in the journal issue 1 before his publication, halfway across the world. I think it's kind of like an avalanche, there is some sense to being quiet until you know enough to have a reasonable estimate of the impact of your action. As a rule though, I'd rather see ideas traded here than behind DARPA firewalls.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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<title>John_Maxwell_IV on Characterizing the superintelligence which we are concerned about</title>
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<dc:date>2012-04-03T07:58:39.805070+10:00</dc:date>
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&lt;div class=&quot;md&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don't think the impact of writing my comment would've been significant, but I don't see any reason to make our situation worse on the margin.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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<title>keefe on Characterizing the superintelligence which we are concerned about</title>
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<dc:date>2012-04-14T06:07:25.071416+10:00</dc:date>
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&lt;div class=&quot;md&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;For you, posting about the fact that you decided not to post it reinforces the idea that you are important enough to have an impact with a blog post, which is more likely to reinforce the most common bias of intelligent people.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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<title>pleeppleep on Characterizing the superintelligence which we are concerned about</title>
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<dc:date>2012-04-03T05:58:12.221153+10:00</dc:date>
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&lt;div class=&quot;md&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'm sorry, but I don't follow that last sentence. I don't suppose you'd be kind enough to explain?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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<title>John_Maxwell_IV on Characterizing the superintelligence which we are concerned about</title>
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<dc:date>2012-04-03T07:57:00.758753+10:00</dc:date>
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&lt;div class=&quot;md&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;source=hp&amp;amp;biw=1008&amp;amp;bih=609&amp;amp;q=this+lousy+shirt&amp;amp;gbv=2&amp;amp;oq=this+lousy+shirt&amp;amp;aq=f&amp;amp;aqi=&amp;amp;aql=&amp;amp;gs_l=img.3...3488l3520l0l5445l16l2l0l0l0l0l154l154l0j1l1l0.frgbld.#hl=en&amp;amp;gbv=2&amp;amp;tbm=isch&amp;amp;sa=1&amp;amp;q=this+lousy+t-shirt&amp;amp;oq=this+lousy+t-shirt&amp;amp;aq=f&amp;amp;aqi=g-S1&amp;amp;aql=&amp;amp;gs_l=img.3..0i24.26848l26897l0l29262l18l2l0l0l0l0l118l235l0j2l2l0.frgbld.&amp;amp;pbx=1&amp;amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&amp;amp;fp=cf9bd441d8f22a0b&amp;amp;biw=1008&amp;amp;bih=609&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&amp;#39;s the relevant meme&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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<title>pleeppleep on Characterizing the superintelligence which we are concerned about</title>
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<dc:date>2012-04-03T12:50:21.855593+10:00</dc:date>
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&lt;div class=&quot;md&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks, never heard of that before.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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<title>DSimon on Characterizing the superintelligence which we are concerned about</title>
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<dc:date>2012-04-05T18:46:14.619964+10:00</dc:date>
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&lt;div class=&quot;md&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;+1 point for making that decision correctly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-2 points for posting a comment that does nothing but brag about that decision, even though the actual content withheld was most likely not that important.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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<title>timtyler on Characterizing the superintelligence which we are concerned about</title>
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<dc:date>2012-04-05T03:30:32.944428+10:00</dc:date>
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&lt;div class=&quot;md&quot;&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Until useful approximations are found, these formal measures are not applicable to our problem--and even then, we will only know which agents are smarter than humans according to a certain metric, which is not necessarily what we are looking for here.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vetta.org/2011/11/aiq/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AIQ&lt;/a&gt;...?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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<title>gwern on Characterizing the superintelligence which we are concerned about</title>
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<dc:date>2012-04-05T04:43:37.578818+10:00</dc:date>
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&lt;div class=&quot;md&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Or the &lt;a href=&quot;http://lesswrong.com/lw/42t/aixistyle_iq_tests/&quot;&gt;competing team&lt;/a&gt;. Wonder which one will be more useful.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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