djcb comments on The efficiency of prizes - Less Wrong

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Comment author: djcb 04 April 2012 05:55:28AM 1 point [-]

The (rather flimsy) Harvard Business School paper suggests that prizes are not a very good deal (financially at least) for the solvers; chances-of-winning x prize-money / hours-spent does not look good.

Comment author: orthonormal 05 April 2012 02:54:28PM 2 points [-]

Competing for a big prize against many qualified others reminds me too much of the dollar auction.

Comment author: timtyler 04 April 2012 02:41:44PM 1 point [-]

The attraction of prizes that is relevant here is mostly to the prize awarders, not the prize recipients.

Comment author: sark 10 April 2012 08:10:09PM 0 points [-]

Surely the costs/benefits to everybody, including third-parties, counts. Surely the real issue is the ultimate economic efficiency of these prizes as a way to allocate our collective resources toward achieving the most collective benefit from solved problems.

Comment author: timtyler 11 April 2012 12:27:57AM *  0 points [-]

What counts depends on your perspective. Awarders and recipients have their own opinions on the issue.

Comment author: CronoDAS 04 April 2012 07:08:40AM 0 points [-]

That partially answers my question: in order to be a good (financial) deal for the solvers, prizes generally have to be a lot bigger than they are now.

Comment author: djcb 04 April 2012 07:58:49AM 3 points [-]

To took at a totally different area, see the Google Lunar X Prize, from their FAQ:

How much will teams spend to win the Google Lunar X PRIZE?

Three centuries of history have shown that teams competing to win incentive prizes often spend more than the prize value itself. Teams in competitions such as the Orteig Prize, the Ansari X PRIZE, and the DARPA Grand Challenges have spent as much as 5 times the prize purse value to fund their entries; and expenditures of 2.5 times the prize purse value by individual teams are relatively common.

We expect that teams pursuing the Google Lunar X PRIZE will follow these historical trends. A broad range of team expenditures—from as low as $15 million to as high as $100 million—are expected. Past prizes have shown the best funded teams do not necessarily win the prize, however. We look forward to learning from our teams as they pioneer new methods to raise money and to trim costs for a lunar mission.

Obviously, you will gain many benefits (financial and non-financial) beyond the prize if you win, but I think it is safe to say that these prizes by themselves are about inspiring people, not about (direct) financial gain.

Comment author: timtyler 04 April 2012 07:07:04PM 1 point [-]

Financial gain as a result of prizes often goes to the awarders of the prize - rather than the prize recipients.