pedanterrific comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 14, chapter 82 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: pedanterrific 10 April 2012 02:13:03PM *  2 points [-]

Why would (how would) the Basilisk transfer its secrets with a Dark Ritual rather than just, you know, talking?

Also, in canon Harry wasn't a Parselmouth until after that Halloween, and stopped being one when the Horcrux was destroyed.

Comment author: gwern 10 April 2012 06:36:41PM 0 points [-]

Why would (how would) the Basilisk transfer its secrets with a Dark Ritual rather than just, you know, talking?

Efficiency: speed & certainty. How many secrets would you be leaving behind before this incredibly baroque scheme was worth putting in place? How long would it take to communicate hundreds of ultra-advanced spells by one of the pre-eminent wizards of that golden age? How long can a student afford to be sneaking off to the Chamber?

We've seen legilimency used to read minds, but Order of the Phoenix also showed that it could be used to write to minds as well.

Comment author: pedanterrific 10 April 2012 06:45:40PM *  3 points [-]

This seems to defeat the purpose somewhat. Isn't the point of the Basilisk to ensure that only Parselmouths can access the secrets? Presumably legilimency is, if not impossible, at least difficult to use on a creature with the Gaze of Death, but if there were rituals to transfer information from its mind to yours, obtaining consent under duress seems a small enough obstacle.

Comment author: gwern 10 April 2012 06:53:31PM 1 point [-]

I don't follow. The Parseltongue requirements controls access to the Chamber and also communication with the Basilisk. What more is needed?

Comment author: pedanterrific 10 April 2012 06:58:02PM 1 point [-]

So you're thinking a Dark Ritual that only works for Parselmouths? That might work, I guess.