pjeby comments on Instrumental Rationality is a Chimera - Less Wrong

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Comment author: pjeby 17 April 2009 02:24:54AM *  3 points [-]

What does "rationality" signify in this case? Unconsious co-ordination and control of the senses and muscles? That is not what I, or any sane person, understands by the word "rationality"! Is "rationality" just a universal signifier for "doing stuff right"?

No, instrumental rationality is the meta-process you apply to choosing or refining the primary process (i.e., the actual toast-buttering).

If you look carefully at the original statement that I made, you'll find that there are a large number of places where people fail at instrumental rationality:

  • Failing to establish success criteria in advance
  • Failing to determine desired/feasible levels of investment
  • Failing to test
  • Failing to generate alternatives
  • Failure to apply creativity
  • Failure to apply problem-solving

And these are just the failures you can generate by a literal reading of my statement, without addressing things like failures within each of these areas, like failure to establish a baseline for testing, etc.

These are all ways in which I've seen large, expensive, real-world projects fail... and a lot of people in the business world will nonetheless look at you funny when you ask questions like, "so, how will this make the company money?"

(And a small minority, thank heaven, will think you're a genius (or recognize a fellow-traveler) and start bringing you in to ask these kinds of questions sooner in the process.)