Kaj_Sotala comments on Cryonics without freezers: resurrection possibilities in a Big World - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 05 April 2012 11:07:28AM *  2 points [-]

I thought that your previous comment was simply saying that

1) in deciding whether or not we should value the survival of a "me", the evolutionary background of this value is irrelevant
2) the reason why people value the survival of a "me" is unrelated to the instrumental benefits of the goal

I agree with those claims, but don't see them as being contrary to my decision not to personally endorse such a value. You seem to be saying that the question of whether or not a "me" should be valued is in some sense an epistemological question, while I see it as a choice of personal terminal values. The choice of terminal values is unaffected by epistemological considerations, otherwise they wouldn't be terminal values.

Comment author: torekp 08 April 2012 01:26:31PM *  1 point [-]

You seem to be saying that the question of whether or not a "me" should be valued is in some sense an epistemological question, while I see it as a choice of personal terminal values. The choice of terminal values is unaffected by epistemological considerations, otherwise they wouldn't be terminal values.

Wait - what? Are you partly defining terminal values via their being unaffected by epistemic considerations? This makes me want to ask a lot of questions for which I would otherwise take answers for granted. Like: are there any terminal values? Can a person choose terminal values? Do choices express values that were antecedent to the choice? Can a person have "knowledge" or some closely related goal as a personal terminal value?