Velorien comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 15, chapter 84 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: kilobug 11 April 2012 07:13:53PM 0 points [-]

Not exactly like that. It only happens once (not a plural "curses", "Slytherins", ... as you said), against Draco, and it's not Harry cold-bloodly going to try it on Draco, but he does it under anger in a time at which Draco provokes Harry. That was a very unethical and stupid move of Harry, but it was a burst of uncontrolled anger that happened once, not a cold-blood tendency to do it.

Comment author: Velorien 11 April 2012 08:30:12PM 4 points [-]

Actually, he also tests a toenail-growing curse on either Crabbe or Goyle, and at least one other on a different Slytherin.

Comment author: thomblake 11 April 2012 08:53:24PM 2 points [-]

It was on Crabbe, and I believe the only other experiment was Harry accidentally casting Levicorpus on Ron in the bedroom.

Comment author: kilobug 12 April 2012 04:20:18PM 0 points [-]

He did cast curses on other Slytherin during various fights, but I don't think any of those was a test.

Comment author: Velorien 12 April 2012 04:40:03PM 9 points [-]

Harry had already attempted a few of the Prince's self-invented spells. There had been a hex that caused toenails to grow alarmingly fast (he had tried this on Crabbe in the corridor, with very entertaining results); a jinx that glued the tongue to the roof of the mouth (which he had twice used, to general applause, on an unsuspecting Argus Filch); and, perhaps most useful of all, Muffliato, a spell that filled the ears of anyone nearby with an unidentifiable buzzing, so that lengthy conversations could be held in class with out being overheard.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 14 April 2012 08:48:27AM 9 points [-]

And people go around complaining about HJPEV being a bastard.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 14 April 2012 08:32:45PM 2 points [-]

The difference being that in cannon Harry acts and thinks his age and thus acts immature. In MoR Harry mostly thinks like an adult except he still acts immature.

Comment author: Percent_Carbon 14 April 2012 09:23:17AM 1 point [-]

And people go around complaining about HPJEV being a bastard.

Why do people use this?

Also, why Harry Potter James Evans Veras?

Comment author: pedanterrific 14 April 2012 10:01:42AM 5 points [-]

Wait. Wait just one minute.

Can Eliezer edit his posts without leaving an asterisk?

Comment author: Percent_Carbon 14 April 2012 10:25:37AM 2 points [-]

Wait. Wait just one minute.

Can Eliezer edit his posts without leaving an asterisk?

Yes. Yes he can. Must be an administrator thing.

I expect he could edit mine, too, if he wanted.

Comment author: wedrifid 14 April 2012 12:25:41PM *  2 points [-]

Wait. Wait just one minute.

Can Eliezer edit his posts without leaving an asterisk?

Yes. Yes he can. Must be an administrator thing.

Do you mean he both can and has done so at least once in the past? That is in poor taste if he has. (And I think I recall the comment in question having the wrong name order the first time I read it.)

Note to self (and others): Assume all Eliezer comments have an asterisk.

(If it is the case that Eliezer can't leave an asterisk even if he chooses to then the fault is of course not his and it should be filed as a bug and change request.)

Comment author: Percent_Carbon 14 April 2012 12:50:40PM 1 point [-]

Wait. Wait just one minute.

Can Eliezer edit his posts without leaving an asterisk?

Yes. Yes he can. Must be an administrator thing.

Do you mean he both can and has done so at least once in the past?

Yes. I am positive that I pasted that line and did not rearrange it.

Note to self (and others): Assume all Eliezer comments have an asterisk.

Either he or someone he strongly influences has administrator access to the site and can change any comment at any time. You either have to trust him or assume that all comments have an asterisk.

Is there supposed to be something especially secure about this place?

Comment author: loserthree 14 April 2012 05:11:00PM 1 point [-]

I started using it because I believed the protagonist is not just an alternate Harry Potter but a truly different person.

(I don't believe that quite as strongly, anymore.)

Comment author: pedanterrific 14 April 2012 09:35:00AM 1 point [-]

It's shorter than "MoR!Harry".

Comment author: Random832 14 April 2012 09:52:59AM 2 points [-]

But harder to spell. HPJEV.

Comment author: pedanterrific 14 April 2012 09:55:39AM *  1 point [-]

Yes, and it's Verres, not Veras. What's your point?

I noticed that, I was just answering a different question.

Comment author: Random832 14 April 2012 09:57:30AM *  2 points [-]

Well, if I were comparing it to spelling out the whole name, you'd be right. But I was comparing it to "MoR!Harry". EDIT: Which makes my response relevant to yours.