Logos01 comments on Be Happier - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Logos01 24 April 2012 11:15:27PM 1 point [-]

Not fulfilling the potential itself, but rather the capacity to do so, (which can only properly be measured by the actualization / acting-upon-of said capacity). As to why -- well, fundamentally it's the notion that maximized instrumentality is the maximally optimal instrumental state. From there the question becomes; "is maximized instrumentality useful?"

That is a "self-proving" terminal value. One need only ask the question to see that it implies its answer. "Is being useful useful?" Well... yes. Whatever it is you want to do or achieve is transparent / irrelevant to this.

Being useful is useful. The "use" of being useful is that it's useful.

These are essentially tautological statements.

So when I ask, "what's the use of being happy" -- saying "It makes you happy" is true (tautologically) but not an expression of utility, whereas having utility is useful because it's useful is also tautologically true but is an expression of utility.

Comment author: tog 13 June 2012 01:44:17PM *  0 points [-]

Surely a self-proving value is one where the question "Is X valuable?" is self-proving?

Comment author: Logos01 13 June 2012 09:41:32PM 0 points [-]

Indeed. Which is why happiness is not a terminal value.