David_Gerard comments on Our Phyg Is Not Exclusive Enough - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Username 14 April 2012 09:44:16PM 11 points [-]

I think the barrier of entry is high enough - the signal-to-noise ratio is high, and if you only read high-karma posts and comments you are guaranteed to get substance.

As for forcing people to read the entire Sequences, I'd say rationalwiki's critique is very appropriate (below). I myself have only read ~20% of the Sequences, and by focusing on the core sequences and highlighted articles, have recognized all the ideas/techniques people refer to in the main-page and discussion posts.

The "sequences"[9] are several collated series of Yudkowsky's blog posts, and there are eighteen sequences in all. The indexes for just the four "core sequences"[10] are somewhere north of 10,000 words. Those link to over a hundred and fifty 2,000-3,000-word blog posts. That's about 300,000-450,000 words for those four, and around a million words for the lot.[11] With a few million more words of often-relevant comments. For comparison, the Lord Of The Rings trilogy is 473,000 words.[12] As such, "You should try reading the sequences" is LessWrong for "fuck you."

Comment author: David_Gerard 14 April 2012 10:53:28PM *  2 points [-]

Downvoted for linking to that site.

... what?

Comment author: Alsadius 15 April 2012 06:22:41PM *  2 points [-]

It's both funny and basically accurate. I'd say it's a perfectly good link.

Comment author: [deleted] 15 April 2012 07:41:14PM 6 points [-]

David is making a joke, because he wrote most of the content of that article.

Comment author: David_Gerard 15 April 2012 08:55:28PM *  6 points [-]

Tetronian started the article, so it's his fault actually, even if he's pretty much moved here.

I have noted before that taking something seriously because it pays attention to you is not in fact a good idea. Every second that LW pays a blind bit of notice to RW is a second wasted.

See also this comment on the effects of lack of outside world feedback, and a comparison to Wikipedia (which basically didn't get any outside attention for four or five years and is now part of the infrastructure of society, at which I still boggle).

And LW may or may not be pleased that even on RW, when someone fails logic really badly the response is often couched in LW terms. So, memetic infections ahoy! Think of RW as part of the Unpleasable Fanbase.

Comment author: thomblake 16 April 2012 10:05:31PM 2 points [-]

Memetic hazard warning!

Comment author: David_Gerard 16 April 2012 10:27:51PM 2 points [-]

ITYM superstimulus ;-)

Comment author: wedrifid 15 April 2012 08:58:55PM 0 points [-]

Every second that LW pays a blind bit of notice to RW is a second wasted.

Not really. There is content there that is not completely useless. Especially if the 'seconds wasted' come out of time that would have otherwise been spent on lesswrong itself.

Comment author: Alsadius 15 April 2012 08:40:39PM *  0 points [-]

Ahhhh. Well, that flips my downvote.

Comment author: wedrifid 15 April 2012 08:12:22PM 0 points [-]

David is making a joke, because he wrote most of the content of that article.

Oh, that explains a lot!