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Comment author: David_Gerard 14 April 2012 11:00:51PM *  11 points [-]

I notice that, in topics that Eliezer did not explicitly cover in the sequences (and some that he did), LW has made zero progress in general. This [people not reading them] is probably one of the reasons why.

Um, after I read the sequences I ploughed through every LW post from the start of LW to late 2010 (when I started reading regularly). What I saw was that the sequences were revered, but most of the new and interesting stuff from that intervening couple of years was ignored. (Though it's probably just me.)

At this point A Group Is Its Own Worst Enemy is apposite. Note the description of the fundamentalist smackdown as a stage communities go through. Note it also usually fails when it turns out the oldtimers have differing and incompatible ideas on what the implicit constitution actually was in the good old days.

tl;dr declarations of fundamentalism heuristically strike me as inherently problematic.

edit: So what about this comment rated a downvote?

edit 2: ah - the link to the Shirky essay appears to be giving the essay in the UK, but Viagra spam in the US o_0 I've put a copy up here.

Comment author: [deleted] 14 April 2012 11:57:53PM *  2 points [-]

Am I in some kind of internet black-hole? That link took me to some viagra spam site.

Comment author: David_Gerard 15 April 2012 12:04:04AM *  4 points [-]

It's a talk by Clay Shirky, called "A Group Is Its Own Worst Enemy".

I get the essay ... looking in Google, it appears someone's done some scurvy DNS tricks with shirky.com and the Google cache is corrupted too. Eegh.

I've put up a copy here and changed the link in my comment..

Comment author: TimS 15 April 2012 12:06:59AM *  0 points [-]

shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html

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