Manfred comments on Our Phyg Is Not Exclusive Enough - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Grognor 14 April 2012 09:41:29PM *  4 points [-]

Upvoted.

I agree pretty much completely and I think if you're interested in Less Wrong-style rationality, you should either read and understand the sequences (yes, all of them), or go somewhere else. Edit, after many replies: This claim is too strong. I should have said instead that people should at least be making an effort to read and understand the sequences if they wish to comment here, not that everyone should read the whole volume before making a single comment.

There are those who think rationality needs to be learned through osmosis or whatever. That's fine, but I don't want it lowering the quality of discussion here.

I notice that, in topics that Eliezer did not explicitly cover in the sequences (and some that he did), LW has made zero progress in general. This is probably one of the reasons why.

An IRC conversation I had a while ago left me with a powerful message: people will give lip service to keeping the gardens, but when it comes time to actually do it, nobody is willing to.

Comment author: Manfred 15 April 2012 10:59:00PM 2 points [-]

I notice that, in topics that Eliezer did not explicitly cover in the sequences (and some that he did), LW has made zero progress in general. This is probably one of the reasons why.

<shameless self-promotion> My recent post explains how to get true beliefs in situations like the anthropic trilemma, which post begins with the words "speaking of problems I don't know how to solve." </shameless self-promotion>

However, there is a bit of a remaining problem, since I don't know how to model the wrong way of doing things (naive application of Bayes' rule to questionable interpretations). well enough to tell whether it's fixable or not, so although the problem is solved, it is not dissolved.

Comment author: Grognor 15 April 2012 11:15:52PM *  0 points [-]

I quietly downvoted your post when you made it for its annoying style and because I didn't think it really solved any problems, just asserted that it did.

Comment author: Manfred 16 April 2012 02:31:29AM 4 points [-]

What could I do to improve the style of my writing?