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Comment author: buybuydandavis 17 April 2012 03:51:11AM 3 points [-]

You test for the effect of a sham treatment (placebo) by comparing it with no treatment at all.

So you've partitioned the treatments between (placebo + other unknown) versus (other unknown). The effect of the placebo is the difference between the two treatments, just as the effect of a "real drug" is the difference between the (real treatment + unknown effects) and (sham treatment + unknown effects).

Comment author: Morendil 17 April 2012 01:05:10PM 0 points [-]

It's very difficult to arrange an experimental setup for "no treatment at all", because even enrolling people in a study can be considered a "treatment" - it's an expectation-inducing intervention with perforce no control group.

I agree that it's the partition you want, and I'm not saying it's impossible, but - can you come up with a specific way of running such an experiment?