John_Maxwell_IV comments on How can we get more and better LW contrarians? - Less Wrong

58 Post author: Wei_Dai 18 April 2012 10:01PM

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Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 18 April 2012 10:56:48PM 0 points [-]

Whatever kind of contrarian Less Wrong thinks is valuable. It's not completely specified. I'm not sure I see how tone comes in.

Comment author: David_Gerard 18 April 2012 11:03:50PM 1 point [-]

I'm thinking of the responses to critics of late. Even the arseholes are slightly worth listening to, but tone arguments are a way of not listening, and this may miss something important even if it's often all the response it deserves. No-one's obligated not to use it, but it's a good exercise to be able not to, particularly for the benefit of onlookers.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 19 April 2012 12:24:33AM 1 point [-]

Of course, listening doesn't leave a record, so it's hard to tell how many people are listening. It's the relative handful of people who reply who define the perceived tone of the site's response.

Or are you suggesting that responding to the substance is a better strategy than simply listening?

Comment author: David_Gerard 19 April 2012 07:02:15AM -1 points [-]

Hmmm. Driving readers away in such a way that they don't even respond strikes me as bad. But in working out what to do about this, I'm left with asking my other-people-simulator, which I strongly suspect will just hand me back the results of typical mind fallacy.