Will_Newsome comments on How can we get more and better LW contrarians? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: TheOtherDave 19 April 2012 12:09:14AM 10 points [-]

Perhaps we have this backwards?

If there is something intrinsically valuable about controversy (and I'm not really sure that there is, but I'm willing to accept the premise for the sake of discussion), and we're not getting the optimal level of controversy on the topics we normally discuss (again, not sure I agree, but stipulated), then perhaps what we should be doing is not looking for "more and better contrarians" who will disagree with us on the stuff we have consensus on, but rather starting to discuss more difficult topics where there is less consensus.

One problem is, of course, that some of us are already worried that LW is too weird-sounding and not sufficiently palatable to the mainstream, for example, and would probably be made uncomfortable if we explore more controversial stuff... it would feel too much like going to school in a clown suit. And moving from areas of strength to areas of weakness is always a little scary, and some of us will resist the transition simply for that reason. And many more.

Still, if you can make a case for the value of controversy, you might find enough of us convinced by that case to make that transition.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 19 April 2012 11:12:26AM 1 point [-]

See Wei Dai's comment here—he doesn't value controversy qua controversy.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 19 April 2012 03:06:18PM 0 points [-]

Mm.
Fair enough.

As I've said elsewhere, I'm not convinced that the goal of having correct beliefs on the topics addressed in the Sequences will be cost-effectively approached by introducing new contrarians to LW.
It would likely be more cost-effective to identify some thinkers we collectively esteem and hire them to perform a "peer review" on those topics.

That said, I'm not sure I see what the point of that would be either, since it's not like EY is going to edit the Sequences regardless of what the reviewers say.
It might be even more cost-effective to hire reviewers for his book before he publishes it.