Viliam_Bur comments on How can we get more and better LW contrarians? - Less Wrong

58 Post author: Wei_Dai 18 April 2012 10:01PM

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Comment author: Viliam_Bur 19 April 2012 01:34:46PM 1 point [-]

Do you also think that having more contrarians who disagree that "2+2=4" would increase our likelihood of having correct beliefs? I mean, if they are wrong, we will see the weakness in their arguments and refuse to update, so there is no harm; but if they are right and we are wrong, it could be very helpful.

More generally, what is your algorithm for deciding for which values of X we need more contrarians who disagree with X?

Comment author: TimS 19 April 2012 02:13:40PM 5 points [-]

If people come to LessWrong thinking "2+2 != 4" or "computer manufacturing isn't science", is saying "You're stupid" really raising the sanity line in any way? In short, we should distinguish between punishing disagreement and punishing obstinate behavior/contrarianism.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 20 April 2012 03:42:10AM *  4 points [-]

"computer manufacturing isn't science"

Well, computer manufacturing isn't science, it's engineering.

Comment author: TimS 20 April 2012 07:30:43PM 1 point [-]

If someone says, "I believe in computers and GPS, but not quantum mechanics or science" then they are deeply confused.

Comment author: [deleted] 24 April 2012 12:48:32AM 0 points [-]

Has there been a glut of those on LessWrong?

Comment author: TimS 24 April 2012 02:38:41AM *  1 point [-]

This. It's obviously very possible that this was a troll, but that's not my read.

Edit: There were one or two others talking a lot without contributing much that seemed to be the impetus for this discussion post. Wei Dai's post seems to be a reaction to that post.