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Their fruits are worse! (But some of those fruits - with the violent oppression and suchlike - you have said they should have done more of.)
The latter precludes the former in my way of modelling internet contributions.
Ah, I see. Unfortunate that "trolling" is so ambiguous as to whether it's about results or motivations (i.e.(?), immediate results or expected future results (potentially conditional on feeding/anti-feeding)). Results in e.g. Eliezer calling XiXiDu a troll even when XiXiDu clearly isn't trolling in the conative sense. Steve suggested ghost netting for the non-conative case.
Interesting, it appears that in some contexts the word "troll" is acquiring a usage similar to the word "fascist".