gwern comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 16, chapter 85 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: gwern 20 April 2012 02:39:07AM *  0 points [-]

I thought it was a nice commentary, but I hadn't realized it was intentional (on either your or Rowling's part). If you want anyone to get it, you need to slip in anal rape or something, and even then most readers will miss it.

Comment author: MixedNuts 20 April 2012 11:15:41AM 1 point [-]

IAWYC but don't actually make it a rape.

Comment author: Multiheaded 10 May 2012 02:35:57PM 0 points [-]

I think the "anal rape" was a joke on Gwern's part; I oppose such jokes on political grounds.

Comment author: MixedNuts 10 May 2012 02:57:08PM 1 point [-]

Do you oppose jokes involving rape because of social consequences of rape being found to be funny, jokes involving rape because of direct consequences on people hearing the joke, jokes about prison rape because of consequences of prisoners, or something else?

Comment author: Multiheaded 10 May 2012 02:59:17PM *  0 points [-]

All three of those, and I could probably think of other adverse consequences given time.

Comment author: gwern 10 May 2012 02:56:10PM 0 points [-]

I was quite serious. And why not? Murder is worse than anal rape, and that has already been included; besides that, people have argued we see at least one kind of rape already in MoR.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 20 April 2012 03:36:59AM 1 point [-]

Especially those of us who deliberately try to avoid drawing conclusions about authorial intent from text. Whether the author is trying to make an analogical point with a fictional construct is not something I think about too much while reading fiction, though of course correspondences I notice (intentional or not) inform my reading.