Eugine_Nier comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 16, chapter 85 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 21 April 2012 03:19:13AM *  -2 points [-]

That's not exactly an undisputed assertion.

True, but neither is the theory of evolution. ;)

When it comes down to it, the purpose of prisons is to reduce crime. The two main methods by which they accomplish this are being sufficiently nasty to deter would be criminals, and keeping the people who fail to be deterred confined so they can't victimize law-abiding citizens.

Rehabilitation mostly exists so that (some of the) people doing the locking up can signal their compassion by supporting it.

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 21 April 2012 03:29:58AM *  3 points [-]

the purpose of prisons is to reduce crime.

Rapes, murders, and beatings in prison are also supposed to be crimes, no?

The two main methods by which they accomplish this are being sufficiently nasty to deter would be criminals,

At this point you're surely using the same argument that would be used to justify Dementors in Azkaban -- it makes Azkaban nastier: hence it serves as deterrent.