Nornagest comments on Please Don't Fight the Hypothetical - Less Wrong

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Comment author: TimS 20 April 2012 05:59:30PM *  1 point [-]

I choose specks, but I found the discussion very helpful nonetheless.

Specifically, I learned that if you believe suffering is additive in any way, choosing torture is the only answer that makes sense. If you don't believe that (and I don't), then your references to "negative utility" are not as well defined as you think.

Edit: In other words, I think Torture v. Specks is just a restatement of the Repugnant Conclusion

Comment author: Nornagest 20 April 2012 08:01:23PM *  2 points [-]

It's similar, but it's not quite a restatement. Average utilitarianism seems to suggest "torture" when presented with TvDS, for example, while it doesn't support the Repugnant Conclusion as it's usually formulated.