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I have no reason to suspect that other people's use of the absurdity heuristic should cause me to reevaluate every argument I've ever seen.
That a de novo AGI will be nothing like a human child in terms of how to make it safe is an antiprediction in that it would take a tremendous amount of evidence to suggest otherwise, and yet Wang just assumes this without having any evidence at all. I can only conclude that the surface analogy is the entire content of the claim.
If he were just stupid, I'd have no right to be indignant at his basic mistake. He is clearly an intelligent person.
You are not making any sense. Think about how ridiculous your comment must sound to me.
(I'm starting to hate that you've become a fixture here.)
This is off-topic, but this sentence means nothing to me as a person with a consequentialist morality.
The consequentialist argument is as follows:
Lowering the status of people who make basic mistakes causes them to be less likely to make those mistakes. However, you can't demand that non-intelligent people don't make basic mistakes, as they are going to make them anyway. So demand that smart people do better and maybe they will.
The reasoning is the same as Sark Julian's here/here.
I guess the word "right" threw you off. I am a consequentialist.
I'd guess that such status lowering mainly benefits in communicating desired social norms to bystanders. I'm not sure we can expect those whose status is lowered to accept the social norm, or at least not right away.
In general, I'm very uncertain about the best way to persuade people that they could stand to shape up.