JulianMorrison comments on Spreading the word? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: pjeby 20 April 2009 04:42:42AM 7 points [-]

But "If you're so rational, why ain't you rich" is sneaky-good and similar enough to hitch a ride. It asks: maybe you aren't rational enough? And suddenly a scale is introduced.

An interesting data point: those who are rich (powerful, successful with the appropriate sex, etc.) are usually those who are willing to accept unpleasant truths regarding what is required of them.

It is generally not necessary for such people to actually discover or work out those truths, since most of them are readily apparent, available in books or other educational material, and of course learnable via "hard knocks".

So, the rationality that "wins" the most (in bang-for-the-buck terms) is not so much being a perfect Bayesian or smart reasoner, as it is in the willingness to accept potentially-unpleasant truths, including those that violate your most cherished ideals and preferences about the way the world should be.

(And unfortunately, the people who are most attracted by the idea of being right, are usually also the people least willing to admit they might be wrong.)

Comment author: JulianMorrison 20 April 2009 07:26:32AM 2 points [-]

I doubt that's all the winning that's possible. They just leaped hurdle number one, non-delusion.

Comment author: pjeby 20 April 2009 03:16:05PM 3 points [-]

I doubt that's all the winning that's possible. They just leaped hurdle number one, non-delusion.

I'm just saying that leaping that one hurdle is sufficient for the vast majority of people to take huge steps forward in their results. Outside of attempts to advance science or technology, there are very few things in life that can't be had with only that much "rationality".