Vladimir_Nesov comments on New x-risk organization at Cambridge University - Less Wrong

10 Post author: lukeprog 24 April 2012 05:50PM

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 29 April 2012 11:05:53AM 2 points [-]

Luke's comment talks about "someone like [Bostrom]", not "Bostrom".

Comment author: XiXiDu 29 April 2012 12:55:47PM *  0 points [-]

Luke's comment talks about "someone like [Bostrom]", not "Bostrom".

Right. That allows the comment to be technically superfluous, given a charitable interpretation. Otherwise it still implies that he either deems the rest of the current staff to be not like Bostrom or that most academics are not like him and instead only care for status while getting nothing useful done. Especially since he could have instead stated that he is happy to see people being involved in the project that are probably going to do useful work.

Comment author: lukeprog 29 April 2012 01:08:05PM 1 point [-]

By "like Bostrom" I mean: consistently outputs work useful for making decisions affecting global risk.

Most plausible hires are, indeed, not like Bostrom in this respect. My statement does not imply, however, that most academics "care only for status." I only said that their output could be predicted by a simple model of an amoeba seeking status and funding. (One of the major results of the heuristics & biases tradition, and also neuroeconomics, is that we are not Homo Economicus, and thus we cannot infer desires cleanly from behavior or "output".)

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 29 April 2012 01:01:03PM *  0 points [-]

that most academics are not like [Bostrom] and instead only care for status while getting nothing useful done

This seems to be the assumption (modulo the equivocation of "care").