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Comment author: Viliam_Bur 26 April 2012 12:43:37PM *  2 points [-]

Let's assume local laws of the universe, and the many worlds interpretation. How does the physics know which branch of the multiverse here corresponds to which branch of the multiverse there?

What exactly happens when I go from place A to place B, and then return to the place A? The whole universe is a superposition of many configurations. The place A (roughly speaking) is a superposition of many possible variants of the place A. What helps me to return to (a future of) the same variant of place A as I left? When I was in place B, in a sufficiently small time interval (distance between A and B, divided by c) both places were disconnected. And yet the universe somehow remembers to which branches of the place A do I belong.

Its probably a confused question, so please help me fix my intuition. (To avoid unnecessary branches of discussion, let's suppose that I agree with what is explained in the Sequences, although I probably misunderstood a few things. I just want to avoid unnecessary disclaimers like "assuming the WMI interpretation" in the responses.)

Comment author: pragmatist 26 April 2012 06:19:21PM *  2 points [-]

Perhaps the single most important thing to realize when adopting the (non-relativistic) MWI is that physical three-dimensional space is not the fundamental space of the theory. The arena in which the theory takes place is configuration space.

The sort of information you're looking for, about which physical space you return to, is encoded in configuration space and the Schrodinger equation. Even though the two different versions of point A you're talking about inhabit the same location in physical space, they inhabit distinct locations in configuration space, so the laws of quantum mechanics can distinguish between them.

Think of a simple case where you perform a spin measurement experiment at location A, and say that in your branch the measuring device at the location shows that the particle you measured was spin up. There will be another branch where the measuring device shows spin down, but this branch will have separated quite substantially from your branch in configuration space. Now your question amounts to this: if you leave location A and then return, why don't you return to find that you're in the other branch (the spin-down one). Looking at things from the configuration space perspective, the question doesn't seem all that troubling. This other branch is in a totally separate region of configuration space. Moving around in physical space won't jump you across configuration space to this other branch. The Schrodinger equation is local in configuration space. All that happens when you move around in physical space is that your branch (the one with the spin up measurement) moves around with you in configuration space. Since you always stay within that branch, returning to location A will reveal that the detector still shows spin up.

Perhaps what I say in this comment about "worlds" in MWI not being places might also help. You can't move out of your world (your branch) by travelling far enough in physical space.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 27 April 2012 01:06:15AM 1 point [-]

Perhaps the single most important thing to realize when adopting the (non-relativistic) MWI is that physical three-dimensional space is not the fundamental space of the theory. The arena in which the theory takes place is configuration space.

Of course, this pretty much destroys the "locality" argument.