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No one LW position is all that parochial. It's taking them all seriously simultaneously that is considered weird. You aren't supposed to really believe in all these words. Words are for status, what are you a bunch of nerds?
Self-aggrandizing tribalistic straw-manning. Currently upvoted to +5. If the upvotes are meant to be amusingly ironic, come home, all is forgiven.
I thought my tone sufficiently separated the first half from the second half. Would a line break make you feel better?
I have no idea what you mean to say, unless it is simply a way of saying I'm an idiot while muddying the discussion. Clearly there are two parts to your post. I am saying the underlying sentiments I attribute to you from that post are: self-aggrandizing, tribalistic, straw-manning
If you think that I am criticizing your exaggerating rherotical expression, you're mistaken. I think the underlying sentiment, stripped of rhetoric is: self-aggrandizing, tribalistic, straw-manning. I'm repeating for clarity.
Not only is no one accusing you of being nerds, it is not even a reasonably exaggeration of what anybody says about this place. You do know you' (Less Wrong) are perceived as crazy, right?
Maybe you can help me unpack your original statement then.
Self aggrandizing: analytic people NEED to be self aggrandizing, they're calibrated poorly on how much better they are than other people IME.
Tribalistic: you mean my statement is applause lights for LW beliefs? I didn't think my point was totally obvious. I've been making an effort to say more things I consider obvious due to evidence that I'm poorly calibrated on what is obvious.
Straw manning: You say yourself that others think we are crazy. To say I am straw manning implies that I am attributing to others shoddy reasons for believing we are crazy. But evidence points to exactly that, most of the critiques of less wrong positions have been absolutely terrible, including the ones coming from scholars/academia*. If you have any material on this I'm always looking for more.
*If someone believes that each of the beliefs held by the average LW has low probability of being true then it is reasonable for them to conclude that the likelihood of them all being true simultaneously is abysmally low.
For me, your tone did indeed clearly demarcate your point from the rest (before I read the parent).
Individual thoughts from LW can be found elsewhere too. Which is not surprising -- they are supposed to reflect reality.
The added value of LW, in my opinion, is trying to be rational thoroughly. I don't know any other website which does the same thing, and is accessible to a reader like me. If anyone knows such site, please give me a link.