pnrjulius comments on The Sin of Underconfidence - Less Wrong

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Comment author: byrnema 24 April 2009 03:27:50PM *  1 point [-]

If God's existence is the prior, I don't think you include that he is also an "omnipotent, omniscient and benevolent being, [...]". Those are things you deduce about him after. The way I've thought about it is let X =whatever the explanation is to the creation conundrum. We will call X "God". X exists trivially (by definition), can we then infer properties about X that would justify calling it God? In other words, does the solution to creation have to be something omniscient and benevolent? (This is the part which is highly unlikely.)

Comment author: pnrjulius 12 June 2012 03:34:48AM 1 point [-]

If you call X "God" by definition, you may find yourself praying to the Big Bang, or to mathematics.

There is a mysterious force inherent in all matter and energy which binds the universe together. We call it "gravity", and it obeys differential equations.

Comment author: byrnema 17 June 2012 05:56:36AM 0 points [-]

If you call X "God" by definition, you may find yourself praying to the Big Bang, or to mathematics.

The Big Bsng and mathematics are good candidates. I've considered them. It only sounds ridiculous because you mentioned praying to them. The value of 'praying to X' is again something you need to deduce, rather than assume.

We call it "gravity", and it obeys differential equations.

Nah, gravity isn't universal or fundamental enough. That is, I would be very surprised if it was a 'first cause' in any way.