Vladimir_Nesov comments on The Sin of Underconfidence - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Jack 24 April 2009 01:29:27PM 1 point [-]

If we shouldn't expect evidence in either case then the probability of God's existence is just the prior, right? How could P(God) be above .5? I can't imagine thinking that the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient and benevolent being who answers prayers and rewards and punishes the sins of mortals with everlasting joy or eternal punishment was a priori more likely than not.

I wonder what variety of first cause argument he's making. Even if everything must have a cause that does not mean there is a first cause and the existence of a first cause doesn't mean the first cause is God. Aquinas made two arguments of this variety that actually try to prove the existence of God, but they require outdated categories and concepts to even make.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 24 April 2009 04:33:31PM 0 points [-]

If we shouldn't expect evidence in either case then the probability of God's existence is just the prior, right? How could P(God) be above .5? I can't imagine thinking that the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient and benevolent being who answers prayers and rewards and punishes the sins of mortals with everlasting joy or eternal punishment was a priori more likely than not.

Contradiction: answered prayers is lots of evidence.

Comment author: Jack 24 April 2009 05:16:18PM 0 points [-]

I looking at the concept of God and trying to guess what the priors would be for a being that meets that description. That description usually includes answering prayers. If there is evidence of answered prayers then we might want to up the probability of God's existence- but a being capable of doing that is going to be some complex that extraordinary evidence is necessary to come to the conclusion one exists.

Comment author: William 24 April 2009 04:40:19PM 0 points [-]

Only if you have some sort of information about the unanswered prayers.