JulianMorrison comments on Go Forth and Create the Art! - Less Wrong

38 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 23 April 2009 01:37AM

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Comment author: ciphergoth 23 April 2009 11:47:39AM 8 points [-]

LW is largely rationalist-porn for daydreamers, and that's inevitable. However, even if we can avoid that a little bit, if we can be 95% porn and 5% actually effective, then that's still a win worth having. Better than that is worth thinking about but hard to imagine in practice.

I think we will get more useful results if we have a thread in which we can pre-commit to writing such a thing up by the deadline, for the same reason that there should be a registrar of medical trials: a private commitment won't be as effective in avoiding publication bias.

Comment author: JulianMorrison 23 April 2009 02:36:07PM 0 points [-]

I am very wary of pre-commitment of this sort, it sounds like a huge temptation to play Bruce. (Woe is me, akrasia is my downfall, I told you all I'd invent Quantum gravity in a month and I never even cracked open a physics textbook...)

Also, it's a crutch even if it works. Burning your boats should be reserved for big problems. You shouldn't get used to coercing yourself into every fiddling little improvement!

Comment author: ciphergoth 23 April 2009 03:28:25PM 0 points [-]

Surely not pre-committing will offset that fear to exactly the extent that it gives people permission not to post if they failed, which is something else you're keen to avoid?

I'm not thinking of it as a way to fight backsliding, but as a way to gather better data.

Comment author: JulianMorrison 23 April 2009 07:43:24PM -1 points [-]

No, not really, at least that wasn't my intention - the deadline should be absolute.

Hmm, how about: if your mind is unclouded with any attempt at self-coercion, you ought to announce in public for the sake of a more reliable strategy->win analysis.