dspeyer comments on Rationality Quotes May 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: dspeyer 01 May 2012 03:59:32PM 9 points [-]

It takes a very clever human to come up with a genuinely funny joke about goodness, but any human can be trained to act as if goodness were funny.

-- C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters (from memory -- I may have the exact phrasing wrong).

You can replace "goodness" in this sentence with almost anything that tends to get flippantly rejected without thought.

Comment author: Tyrrell_McAllister 01 May 2012 08:18:34PM 16 points [-]

Good memory. The original reads:

Only a clever human can make a real Joke about virtue, or indeed about anything else; any of them can be trained to talk as if virtue were funny.

Comment author: FiftyTwo 02 May 2012 12:03:33AM 7 points [-]

Not sure if finding something funny in the context of a joke necessarily leads to one not taking it seriously in other contexts. [E.g. when xkcd and smbc make science jokes I don't think my belief in the science they are referencing diminishes.]

Comment author: dspeyer 13 May 2012 06:09:43PM *  5 points [-]

When xkcd and smbc make science jokes, they're real jokes written by clever humans.

Flippancy is more like Dell's recent "shut up bitch" scandal and the it's a joke, laugh reactions to it. Mads Christensen presented no substantive evidence that women are unable to contribute to IT, he just tried to train the crowd to regard the very idea of a capable woman as if it were funny.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 03 May 2012 03:20:26PM 4 points [-]

The bit about "trained to act as if" is very astute. The same training can be applied to overvaluing things with little or no apparent value.