jeremysalwen comments on Rationality Quotes May 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: jeremysalwen 02 May 2012 06:35:02PM 7 points [-]

No, you can only get an answer up to the limit imposed by the fact that the coastline is actually composed of atoms. The fact that a coastline looks like a fractal is misleading. It makes us forget that just like everything else it's fundamentally discrete.

This has always bugged me as a case of especially sloppy extrapolation.

Comment author: DanArmak 02 May 2012 06:42:19PM 5 points [-]

Of course you can't really measure on an atomic scale anyway because you can't decide which atoms are part of the coast and which are floating in the sea. The fuzziness of the "coastline" definition makes measurement meaningless on scales even larger than single atoms and molecules, probably. So you're right, and we can't measure it arbitrarily large. It's just wordplay at that point.

Comment author: VKS 02 May 2012 10:31:09PM 7 points [-]

The island of knowledge is composed of atoms? The shoreline of wonder is not a fractal?

Comment author: Bugmaster 02 May 2012 10:44:38PM 4 points [-]

The island of knowledge is composed of atoms?

Perhaps it's composed of atomic memes ?

Comment author: Snowyowl 08 May 2012 05:52:35PM 11 points [-]

I think this conversation just jumped one of the sharks that swim in the waters around the island of knowledge.