They're not from "real" articles by "real" journalists/propagandists or whatever, just from random blogging idiots. I simply picked a couple of representative ones.
Representative of what? Why not give representative quotes from the very best and brightest Alinsky critics?
For instance:
Mr. Buckley: Well, I think that you've touched on a point that's extremely interesting I would like to develop because you do have fascinating general notions. For instance, you said I'll steal before I'll take charity.
Mr. Alinsky: Yeah.
Mr Buckley: Now, suppose I'm the person you're going to steal it from -- would you consult my feelings if I were to say to you, before stealing from me -- please, won't you just take it? Or is it the act of stealing that gives you the satisfyaction that you require?
Mr. Alinsky: No, of course not. You know better than that. It isn't the act of stealing. (Next of his remark blurred in overlap).
Mr. Buckley: Well, then it is charity -- why don't you take charity then?
Mr. Alinsky: Well, you know what I meant by charity -- just going to, getting welfare handouts and --
Mr. Buckley: Welfare handouts are the products (blurred in overlap) of philanthropy. Your difficulty, it seems to me, is that you may be premature --
Mr. Alinsky: Well, you may not have contradictions. Of course, I have -- life is just a constellation of contradictions --
Mr. Buckley: Now, I think you're very cynical. I don't think you think you are. But you are. You really assume the way pretty much the way a blind man does about sex (inaudible) pleasure for it, it's associated with the act of rape. You feel that only the exercise of power can get to you certain, certain usufructs of life, and that, therefore, you must either take it from somebody because you will not permit that society give it to you.
Later:
Mr. Buckley: .But, I think what's most interesting about yourself -- at least to most people -- is this distinctive appeal that you have to certain types of people who recognize there is a problem of the poor. You appeal to some of them because you have this disdain for wel-fare-ism (Mr. Buckley draws this out) as suggested by that ultimatum of yours that you'd rather steal than receive welfare. Now, this appeals to a lot of people sort of Conservative-minded, who are against welfare because they do believe that there is going on in this country a sort of institutionalization of welfare -- that we ought to get out of it and that to be essentially human, you've got to make your own way. So you appeal to them. On the other hand, you appeal -- they would be Conservative in a way -- you appeal also to Liberals and radicals because yours is a highly non-rhetorical approach. You actually want to organize the poor, and you want to cause them to demand things. And you seem to be utterly either unconscious or, if not unconscious, at least insensible to the normal niceties of approach. When you want something, you simply want it.
Later
Mr. Buckley: You're very much like Ayn Rand, you see.
Mr. Alinski: That's not so.
Mr. Buckley: Only that which I can personally get belongs to me and nobody's going to help me to get it. I think that America, viewed as a nation, is the most humane nation in the experience of the world. I think there is more genuine concern for the poor, for the underprivileged, for the weak in America than we've ever seen in the history of the world. And I see you trying to fire and establish -- and disestablish the order that made that possible.
That's decent and interesting criticism. Indeed, Alinsky appears to have been a hardcore Syndicalist, and both Buckley and me are to the right of him, although Buckley's a lot further. However, that last one is very dubious to me:
...I think that America, viewed as a nation, is the most humane nation in the experience of the world. I think there is more genuine concern for the poor, for the underprivileged, for the weak in America than we've ever seen in the history of the world. And I see you trying to fire and establish -- and disestablish the order that m
Here's the new thread for posting quotes, with the usual rules: