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Consider what we think we know of the Nazis, are you sure about this one?
Considering there were many people in germany who vehemently disliked the nazis too (even ignoring jews), it seems like a pretty safe bet that after being conquered we wouldn't have suddenly viewed the nazis as great people. Why do you think otherwise?
The Japanese are rather fond of America, if I am not mistaken. I assume that it is not uncommon for the conquered to eventually grow satisfied with their conquerors.
We also didn't conquer Japan, we won the war. Those are two different things.
What sort of things would be different if it were the case that America conquered Japan?
Conquer is typically used to mean that you take over the government and run the country, not just win a war.
Americans did rule Japan by military force for about five years after WWII ended, demilitarized the nation, and left behind a sympathetic government of American design. However, if you do not wish to use the word 'conquer' to describe such a process, that is your prerogative.
When you think of a nation conquering another, the US and Japan is really what comes to your mind? Are you honestly having trouble grasping the distinction I was making? Because personally, I'm really not interested in continuing an irrelevant semantics debate.
The US ran the Japanese government for a period of several years. I think you mean to add something about "run the country without intent to transfer power back to the locals".
Yes. I find it odd that this argument is derailed into demanding a discussion on the finer points of the semantics for "conquer."
A confession: Often when reading LW, I will notice some claim that seems wrong, and will respond, without reading the thread context carefully or checking back far enough to understand exactly why a given point came up. This results in an inadvertent tendency to nit-pick, for which I apologize.
I appreciate that sentiment and I'll also add that I appreciate that even in your prior post you made an effort to suggest what you thought I was driving at.