Alerus comments on Is friendly AI "trivial" if the AI cannot rewire human values? - Less Wrong

-5 Post author: Alerus 09 May 2012 05:48PM

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Comment author: J_Taylor 10 May 2012 05:49:49PM 3 points [-]

The Japanese are rather fond of America, if I am not mistaken. I assume that it is not uncommon for the conquered to eventually grow satisfied with their conquerors.

Comment author: Alerus 10 May 2012 07:56:00PM 0 points [-]

We also didn't conquer Japan, we won the war. Those are two different things.

Comment author: J_Taylor 10 May 2012 09:56:55PM 2 points [-]

What sort of things would be different if it were the case that America conquered Japan?

Comment author: Alerus 10 May 2012 10:16:06PM *  0 points [-]

Conquer is typically used to mean that you take over the government and run the country, not just win a war.

Comment author: J_Taylor 10 May 2012 10:24:11PM *  6 points [-]

Americans did rule Japan by military force for about five years after WWII ended, demilitarized the nation, and left behind a sympathetic government of American design. However, if you do not wish to use the word 'conquer' to describe such a process, that is your prerogative.

Comment author: Alerus 11 May 2012 04:17:30AM 1 point [-]

When you think of a nation conquering another, the US and Japan is really what comes to your mind? Are you honestly having trouble grasping the distinction I was making? Because personally, I'm really not interested in continuing an irrelevant semantics debate.

Comment author: asr 10 May 2012 10:17:50PM *  2 points [-]

The US ran the Japanese government for a period of several years. I think you mean to add something about "run the country without intent to transfer power back to the locals".

Comment author: Alerus 11 May 2012 04:07:17AM 0 points [-]

Yes. I find it odd that this argument is derailed into demanding a discussion on the finer points of the semantics for "conquer."

Comment author: asr 11 May 2012 07:31:28AM 1 point [-]

A confession: Often when reading LW, I will notice some claim that seems wrong, and will respond, without reading the thread context carefully or checking back far enough to understand exactly why a given point came up. This results in an inadvertent tendency to nit-pick, for which I apologize.

Comment author: Alerus 11 May 2012 03:22:42PM 0 points [-]

I appreciate that sentiment and I'll also add that I appreciate that even in your prior post you made an effort to suggest what you thought I was driving at.