Richard_Loosemore comments on Thoughts on the Singularity Institute (SI) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: steven0461 10 May 2012 08:25:30PM *  9 points [-]

Regardless of who was how much at fault in the SL4 incident, surely you must admit that Yudkowsky's interactions with you were unusually hostile relative to how he generally interacts with critics. I can see how you'd want to place emphasis on those interactions because they involved you personally, but that doesn't make them representative for purposes of judging cultishness or making general claims that "dissent is ruthlessly suppressed".

Comment author: Richard_Loosemore 10 May 2012 10:34:28PM 1 point [-]

Steven. That does make it seem as though the only thing worth complaining about was the "unusually" hostile EY behavior on that occasion. As if it were exceptional, not repeated before or since.

But that is inaccurate. That episode was the culmination of a long sequence of derogatory remarks. So that is what came before.

What came after? I have made a number of attempts to open a dialog on the important issue at hand, which is not the personal conflict but the question of AGI motivation systems. My attempts have been rebuffed. And instead I have been subjected to repeated attacks by SI members.

That would be six years of repeated attacks.

So portraying it as an isolated incident is not factually correct. Which was my point, of course.

Comment author: Rain 10 May 2012 10:36:50PM *  10 points [-]

I'm interested in any compiled papers or articles you wrote about AGI motivation systems, aside from the forthcoming book chapter, which I will read. Do you have any links?

Comment author: MattMahoney 11 May 2012 04:06:33PM 4 points [-]