Wei_Dai comments on Thoughts on the Singularity Institute (SI) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Wei_Dai 13 May 2012 07:07:17PM 10 points [-]

Would it upset you to talk about why talking about saving the world makes you upset?

Comment author: homunq 14 May 2012 07:23:40PM 3 points [-]

It would appear that cousin_it believes we're screwed. It's tempting to argue that this would, overall, be an argument against the effectiveness of the SI program. However, that's probably not true, because we could be 99% screwed and the remaining 1% could depend on SI; this would be a depressing fact, yet still justify supporting the SI.

(Personally, I agree with the poster about the problems with SI, but I'm just laying it out. Responding to weidai rather than cousinit because I don't want to upset the latter unnecessarily.)

Comment author: private_messaging 15 May 2012 05:46:33AM *  -1 points [-]

we could be 99.9% screwed and the remaining 0.1% could be caused by donating to SI and it discouraging some avenue to survival.

Actually the way i see it, the most stark symptoms of SI being diseased is the certainty in intuitions even though there isn't some mechanism for such intuitions to be based on some subconscious but valid reasoning, and abundance of biases affecting the intuitions. There's nothing rational about summarizing a list of biases then proclaiming now they dont apply to me and i can use my intuitions.

Comment author: cousin_it 13 May 2012 08:06:38PM 4 points [-]

Yes.