PhilGoetz comments on Thoughts on the Singularity Institute (SI) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 17 May 2012 11:33:52PM *  7 points [-]

I witnessed many of the emails in the 2006 banning. Richard disagreed with Eliezer often, and not very diplomatically. Rather than deal with Richard's arguments, Eliezer decided to label Richard as a stupid troll, which he obviously was not, and dismiss him. I am disappointed that Eliezer has apparently never apologized. The email list, SL4, slacked off in volume for months afterwords, probably because most participants felt disgusted by the affair; and Ben Goertzel made a new list, which many people switched to.

Comment author: ChrisHallquist 18 May 2012 01:48:19AM *  0 points [-]

Hmmm...

The fact that many people quit the list / cut back their participation seems fairly strong evidence that Loosemore has a legitimate complaint here.

Though if so, he's done a poor job conveying it in this thread.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 18 May 2012 02:03:18AM 2 points [-]

The fact that many people quit the list / cut back their participation seems fairly strong evidence that Loosemore has a legitimate complaint here.

I'm not sure. People sometimes cut back participation in that sort of thing in response to drama in general. However, it is definitely evidence. Phil's remark makes me strongly update in the direction of Loosemore having a legitimate point.