Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Thoughts on the Singularity Institute (SI) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 22 March 2013 10:37:38PM 8 points [-]

One example here is the Steiner tree problem, which is NP-complete and can sort of be solved using soap films. Bringsjord and Taylor claimed this implies that P = NP. Scott Aaronson did some experimentation and found that soap films 1) can get stuck at local minima and 2) might take a long time to settle into a good configuration.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 22 March 2013 11:29:22PM 3 points [-]

Heh. I remember that one, and thinking, "No... no, you can't possibly do that using a soap bubble, that's not even quantum and you can't do that in classical, how would the soap molecules know where to move?"

Comment author: Manfred 23 March 2013 12:15:02AM 1 point [-]

Well. I mean, it's quantum. But the ground state is a lump of iron, or maybe a black hole, not a low-energy soap film, so I don't think waiting for quantum annealing will help.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 23 March 2013 01:41:40AM 1 point [-]

waves soap-covered wire so it settles into low-energy minimum

dies as it turns into iron