Will_Newsome comments on How many people here agree with Holden? [Actually, who agrees with Holden?] - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Will_Newsome 15 May 2012 09:21:35PM 9 points [-]

Given what little I've seen about SI's skill and expertise at managing the internal politics of such an arrangement, I would expect the current staff to be promptly displaced by more skillful politicians if they went down this road, and the projects of interest to that staff to end up with even fewer resources than they have now.

I think this has already happened to some extent. Reflective people who have good epistemic habits but who don't get shit done have had their influence over SingInst policy taken away while lots of influence has been granted to people like Luke and Louie who get lots of shit done and who make the organization look a lot prettier but whose epistemic habits are, in my eyes, relatively suspect.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 16 May 2012 06:28:37AM 2 points [-]

I think there's an important lesson here about the relative importance of being able to get shit done versus good epistemic habits.

Comment author: Karmakaiser 17 May 2012 02:06:23PM 1 point [-]

Could you expand a bit more on why you think the epistemic habits are suspect compared to previous staffers?

Comment author: wallowinmaya 16 May 2012 04:45:49PM 0 points [-]

Reflective people who have good epistemic habits but who don't get shit done have had their influence over SingInst policy taken away...

Are you talking about guys like e.g. Steve Rayhawk or Peter de Blanc?