TimS comments on Holden's Objection 1: Friendliness is dangerous - Less Wrong

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Comment author: TimS 18 May 2012 05:56:17PM 7 points [-]

The child molester cluster (where they grow child simply to molest them, then kill them) doesn't bother you, even if you never interact with it?

Because I'm fairly certain I wouldn't like what CEV(child molester) would output and wouldn't want an AI to implement it.

Comment author: 4hodmt 18 May 2012 06:25:57PM 1 point [-]

Assuming 100% isolation it would be indistinguishable from living in a universe where the Many Worlds Interpretation is true, but it still seems wrong. The FAI could consider avoiding groups whose even theoretical existence could cause offence, but I don't see any good way to assign weight to this optimization pressure.

Even so, I think splitting humanity into multiple groups is likely to be a better outcome than a single group. I don't consider the "failed utopia" described in http://lesswrong.com/lw/xu/failed_utopia_42/ to be particularly bad.

Comment author: [deleted] 18 May 2012 06:32:29PM 3 points [-]

Assuming 100% isolation it would be indistinguishable from living in a universe where the Many Worlds Interpretation is true

Well, not if "child-molesters" and "non-child-molestors" are competing for limited resources.

Comment author: TimS 18 May 2012 06:42:55PM 0 points [-]

The failed utopia is better than our current world, certainly. But the genie isn't Friendly.

In principle, I could interact with the immoral cluster. AI's interference is not relevant to the morality of the situation because I was part of the creation of the AI. Otherwise, I would be morally justified in ignoring the suffering in some distant part of the world because it will have no practical impact on my life. By contrast, I simply cannot interact with other branches under the MWI - it's a baked in property of the universe that I never had any input into.